godt vejr til luftangreb: If media covered America the way we cover foreign cultures -
Yet another massacre has occurred in the historically war-torn region of the Southern United States – and so soon after the religious festival of Easter.
Brian McConkey, 27, a Christian fundamentalist militiaman living in the formerly occupied territory of Alabama, gunned down…
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related: too many arguments about “same sex” marriage INSTEAD OF “what is gender, what is orientation”; too many discussions of “illegal immigration” instead of the forces that press people one direction and another, or, how can we work together in a better way;
so much discourse…
- Deleuze, Anti-Oedipus
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“What is called ‘courage’ is thus often rooted in a kind of cowardice: one has only to think of all the situations in which, to make men kill, torture or rape, the will to dominate, exploit or oppress has relied on the ‘manly’ fear of being excluded from the world of ‘men’ without weakness, those who are sometimes called ‘tough’ because they are tough on their own suffering and more especially on that of others -the assassins, torturers and ‘hit men’ of all dictatorships and all ‘total institutions’, even the most ordinary ones, such as prisons, barracks or boarding schools -but also the new ‘hatchet men’ of modern management, glorified by neoliberal hagiography, who, themselves often subject to ordeals of physical courage, manifest their virility by sacking their superfluous employees. Manliness, it can be seen, is an eminently relational notion, constructed in front of and for other men and against femininity, in a kind of fear of the female, firstly in oneself” — Pierre Bourdieu - Masculine Domination (via basedsushigoat)
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definition: (a person) being quickly fooled into a simple ineffective act of liberal solidarity that actually supports a sinister agenda
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man and some vegan bullshit making a fucking pyramid picture wherein men are on top and women are on the same level as WHALES. um. what the fuck dudes. are you suggesting that dudes actually eat us? WHAT ARE YOU SAYING WITH THIS IMAGE VEGANS?!
The fuck is this???
Not in anyway trying to disarm or deflect anger at/distaste with militant, evangelical vegans, but couldn’t you interpret it as, “the idea of man being on top and women being inferior, equated with whales along this hierarchy is a product of masculinist egoism, and the same could be said for this idea of dominating nature”? It’s hardly great or visionary, since that would be loosly equating patriarchal control of women with eating meat, and that’s just silly if not casually misogynistic
but
I mean, it’s 4:00 AM and this might be a bit of a stretch, but i don’t think it’s anything like a food chain, since pigs and cows don’t eat fish or birds, much less sharks down there. I think it’s supposed to be about, like, place in the Order of Things-again, according to “Ego”.Whereas the Eco image shows a nice little ecosystem of all Life as a Whole. I think, um, this is the one that the “artist” (lol) prefers?
I mean, obviously, this doesn’t detract from the fact that it’s badly made and stupid stupid, but um yeah. Bit of a stretch.
I don’t think the two can be compared though tbh and uh pigs are omnivores and will eat fish and birds. I don’t think it’s possible to equate vegan lifestyles with masculinist egoism, because there were cultures where veganism was practiced and was patriarchal at the same time. Also the rest of the organisms on the food chain are basically animals that are eaten in cultures so I do think that’s a bit of a very, very wide stretch. I’m not certainly equatable to whale meat in a place where people do actually eat whale meat, although I’m female. It’s not accurate to describe it as such because I am way more valued than whale meat, I am considered higher up, and I have more freedom and rights, even under a very strict, patriarchal system.
Too much of a stretch. Try again.
Yeah, I was leery of that comparison, though applying any realistic expectations to these types of diagrams is hardly feasible anyway.
A lot of militant vegans try to adopt a for themselves a “new” sense of masculinity, feeling like the image of meat-eating hunks robs them of some sense of validity, but trying to reassert masculinity like that is always the same bullshit. And then there’s Peta’s campaign posters…
As for that, if, yes, those are all eaten in other cultures, then it’d probably not be a pyramid like that-I DO think the gist of it is supposed to be a hierarchy of the Order of Things. You have “lower” lifeforms towards the bottom, and of increasing “higher” “intelligence” or whatever the measure is towards the top. Again, Ego. Any relation to the food chain is incidental, if a common association, though you’re right about pigs, my careless mistake.
Also, plants are notably absent.
Above all, I think the person who made them was mostly establishing the gist of this hierarchy-humans are more intelligent than pigs than dogs than cows, but the last three are put in the same generic, sort-of-smart domestic animal. Even the most disgusting misogynist wouldn’t equate women with whales, except in fat-shaming.
And, I’d say, incidentally, that if this were done by your typical white vegan, I highly doubt they’d be aware enough to consider what’s eaten in other cultures, except maybe to the extent that they’d trot out some racist remark about “Chinese people eating dogs” or something.
The point is, it’s “Ego vs Ta-Da we’re all equal parts of an Ecosystem”
not,
“Men eat women and think it’s yum vs. everyone eats everything”-if so, the second one, “Eco”, presumably the “ideal”, would hardly be vegan at all, if that’s supposed to be a food chain.
So, if it’s not a food chain (which I’m rather convinced of), and does not positively represent diminishing women (which you imply it does not), then is this simply an inane statement about animal kingdom egalitarianism, animal liberation, or whatever? And therefore pretty harmless?
…
Meanwhile, the person who made these images probably didn’t think much about it all.
Anyway, sorry, there was no need for me to make this a big thing. I like your blog =)
Wait, if this is about intelligence, then why was it from a vegan thread? and if it’s about intelligence and hierarchy why are they still placing women under men NEXT to whales? there really isn’t any way this isn’t insulting to women it seems….
where in the world are women placed as intellectual equals to whales?
Intelligence/Order of Things/hierarchy/etc, general chain of being, etc.
If the one on the left is taken to be Wrong and due to Ego, and considering that it is the heavily misogynistic one, and the one on the left implies total equality, erroneously or not, as the “ideal” of vegans/animal liberationsts/etc (meat is not their only agenda-this could be conceivably be a “declaration” of the idea of all animals being equal, from which the denunciation of meat-eating comes).
And all of the creatures on that image hardly fit in with every other creature in the image.
Point remains: left image= dominating (I think that there is a narrative of Humankind Dominating or Subjugating Nature that needs to be interrogated, at the very least, while obviously not implying that veganism/animal liberationism is free from misogyny), right image= egalitarian. I’m interpreting this crude diagram as the expression, on the right, of an ideal.
Still, again, stupid, and I’m done trumpeting (read: spluttering) for veganism at dawn.
man and some vegan bullshit making a fucking pyramid picture wherein men are on top and women are on the same level as WHALES. um. what the fuck dudes. are you suggesting that dudes actually eat us? WHAT ARE YOU SAYING WITH THIS IMAGE VEGANS?!
The fuck is this???
Not in anyway trying to disarm or deflect anger at/distaste with militant, evangelical vegans, but couldn’t you interpret it as, “the idea of man being on top and women being inferior, equated with whales along this hierarchy is a product of masculinist egoism, and the same could be said for this idea of dominating nature”? It’s hardly great or visionary, since that would be loosly equating patriarchal control of women with eating meat, and that’s just silly if not casually misogynistic
but
I mean, it’s 4:00 AM and this might be a bit of a stretch, but i don’t think it’s anything like a food chain, since pigs and cows don’t eat fish or birds, much less sharks down there. I think it’s supposed to be about, like, place in the Order of Things-again, according to “Ego”.Whereas the Eco image shows a nice little ecosystem of all Life as a Whole. I think, um, this is the one that the “artist” (lol) prefers?
I mean, obviously, this doesn’t detract from the fact that it’s badly made and stupid stupid, but um yeah. Bit of a stretch.
I don’t think the two can be compared though tbh and uh pigs are omnivores and will eat fish and birds. I don’t think it’s possible to equate vegan lifestyles with masculinist egoism, because there were cultures where veganism was practiced and was patriarchal at the same time. Also the rest of the organisms on the food chain are basically animals that are eaten in cultures so I do think that’s a bit of a very, very wide stretch. I’m not certainly equatable to whale meat in a place where people do actually eat whale meat, although I’m female. It’s not accurate to describe it as such because I am way more valued than whale meat, I am considered higher up, and I have more freedom and rights, even under a very strict, patriarchal system.
Too much of a stretch. Try again.
Yeah, I was leery of that comparison, though applying any realistic expectations to these types of diagrams is hardly feasible anyway.
A lot of militant vegans try to adopt a for themselves a “new” sense of masculinity, feeling like the image of meat-eating hunks robs them of some sense of validity, but trying to reassert masculinity like that is always the same bullshit. And then there’s Peta’s campaign posters…
As for that, if, yes, those are all eaten in other cultures, then it’d probably not be a pyramid like that-I DO think the gist of it is supposed to be a hierarchy of the Order of Things. You have “lower” lifeforms towards the bottom, and of increasing “higher” “intelligence” or whatever the measure is towards the top. Again, Ego. Any relation to the food chain is incidental, if a common association, though you’re right about pigs, my careless mistake.
Also, plants are notably absent.
Above all, I think the person who made them was mostly establishing the gist of this hierarchy-humans are more intelligent than pigs than dogs than cows, but the last three are put in the same generic, sort-of-smart domestic animal. Even the most disgusting misogynist wouldn’t equate women with whales, except in fat-shaming.
And, I’d say, incidentally, that if this were done by your typical white vegan, I highly doubt they’d be aware enough to consider what’s eaten in other cultures, except maybe to the extent that they’d trot out some racist remark about “Chinese people eating dogs” or something.
The point is, it’s “Ego vs Ta-Da we’re all equal parts of an Ecosystem”
not,
“Men eat women and think it’s yum vs. everyone eats everything”-if so, the second one, “Eco”, presumably the “ideal”, would hardly be vegan at all, if that’s supposed to be a food chain.
So, if it’s not a food chain (which I’m rather convinced of), and does not positively represent diminishing women (which you imply it does not), then is this simply an inane statement about animal kingdom egalitarianism, animal liberation, or whatever? And therefore pretty harmless?
…
Meanwhile, the person who made these images probably didn’t think much about it all.
Anyway, sorry, there was no need for me to make this a big thing.
And your blog is great. =)
Edit: I also just don’t know enough about what you said re: veganism and patriarchy in other cultures, and I guess that can be chalked up to basically having done no real research into veganism except nutritionally, it being something I consider personally necessary (as a personal choice), and a huge condition of my being vegan basically being to disregard moralistic, imperious veganism.
And I thought that Buddhist monks were typically vegetarian rather than vegan-guess that’s another thing!
Edit 2: Aaaand, you’re more than absolutely correct about veganism not being innocent of misogyny. But what I said earlier about the meat-eating hunk image, PETA’s generally repulsiveness, etc.
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man and some vegan bullshit making a fucking pyramid picture wherein men are on top and women are on the same level as WHALES. um. what the fuck dudes. are you suggesting that dudes actually eat us? WHAT ARE YOU SAYING WITH THIS IMAGE VEGANS?!
The fuck is this???
Not in anyway trying to disarm or deflect anger at/distaste with militant, evangelical vegans, but couldn’t you interpret it as, “the idea of man being on top and women being inferior, equated with whales along this hierarchy is a product of masculinist egoism, and the same could be said for this idea of dominating nature”? It’s hardly great or visionary, since that would be loosly equating patriarchal control of women with eating meat, and that’s just silly if not casually misogynistic
but
I mean, it’s 4:00 AM and this might be a bit of a stretch, but i don’t think it’s anything like a food chain, since pigs and cows don’t eat fish or birds, much less sharks down there. I think it’s supposed to be about, like, place in the Order of Things-again, according to “Ego”.
Whereas the Eco image shows a nice little ecosystem of all Life as a Whole. I think, um, this is the one that the “artist” (lol) prefers?
I mean, obviously, this doesn’t detract from the fact that it’s badly made and stupid stupid, but um yeah. Bit of a stretch.
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the mensheviks openly sided with the tsar and were prepared to help crush the russian revolution so
Wasn’t it more that they and the pre-Bolshevik-majority Soviet sided with the Provisional Government, considering the bourgeois democratic/capitalist stage a necessity (though even until it became clear that was not desireable)? A bit different from siding with the Tsar and wanting to crush the revolution they took at least a part in during February. After October, a lot of them orchestrated anti-Bolshevik rebellions independent of the various White Armies, fled (the majority,I think, basically just ran away to the West) and, yeah, sided with the reaction.
